What properties do YOU believe AVIC ought to have NOW? (11 posts)

Topic tags: #AVIC, #AVICDesign
  • Profile picture of Dennis Wilson Dennis Wilson said 1 year, 11 months ago:

    The key properties of an #AVICDesign should:

    Be those properties you believe AVIC should ideally have NOW versus what you believe AVIC should NOT have. (This step will take place when your ideas are aggregated. Creative volume is our goal in this stage.)

    Not be concerned with what is feasible.

    An example: the #AVICDesign ought to include the virtual publication of all of Dr. Ackoff’s books, articles and available video presentations for free universal consumption.

    You can also look here http://is.gd/cY7Y1 for some random material that may get your juices flowing. Good luck and thanks for your input!

  • Profile picture of Kent Myers Kent Myers said 1 year, 11 months ago:

    I would like AVIC users to always demonstrate that they are qualified and are also contributing to AVIC best and distinctive use. It is sort of like going into an exclusive country club. You dress well, use your best manners, and make an atmosphere where ‘the finest people’ are eager to join and attend. This is like the Cosmos Club in Washington. You have to be accomplished and do well, not just be rich.
    The ‘dues’ that you pay to the club every quarter is your inquiry. You show what you are working on and keep questions open that other members can contribute to. If you don’t have any inquiry of your own, then you really aren’t fit for the club. You also demonstrate your fitness, and pay your dues, by engaging positively with others in their projects. You are an advisor, mentor, swarm information collector, linkage maven, etc. But of course these are things that you want to do, not because you must in order to maintain your membership. You are here because this is what you thirst to do, to have communion with like-minded, elevated company.

  • Profile picture of Dennis Wilson Dennis Wilson said 1 year, 11 months ago:

    AVIC ought to accept donations via common social media tools (Facebook, LinkedIn Twitter), Text message and online website submission.

  • Profile picture of Dennis Wilson Dennis Wilson said 1 year, 11 months ago:

    AVIC ought to facilitate and manage an annual community gathering. These gatherings can take any form as long as they follow the following criteria:

    -The gathering must support the initiative of an existing Ackoff Center for Design Thinking (ACDT
    -The gathering must be virtual (E.G. Twitter Design through hashtag, virtual meeting space, etc…)

  • Profile picture of Gnana K. Bharathy Gnana K. Bharathy said 1 year, 11 months ago:

    Narrowly focused and action based interest groups tend to have more cohesion, albeit the result of their operating. Having an all purpose entity, that too a virtual center that functions in a healthy fashion is an arduous task. Yet:

    Ideally, AVIC should retain the trans-disciplinary nature of systems thinking and permit, embrace and encourage other related communities to participate. e.g. ISSS, INCOSE, Cybenetics, Complex Systems, and lately design thinking communities.

    AVIC should permit multi-modal inputs to design. That might be philosophical inquiry, research methods such as action research, ethnography, modeling and simulation (M&S). While quantitative approaches and analysis are subservient to the systems thinking/ design thinking, those must be accorded a place as valid approaches under the systems umbrella as long as the bigger purpose is enshrined.

    Thirdly, any successful idea thrives because in the evolutionary competition of “memes” (Dawkins, 1976), they are fit. “Meme-theorists contend that memes evolve by natural selection (in a manner analogous to that of biological evolution) through the processes of variation, mutation, competition, and inheritance influencing an individual meme’s reproductive success. Memes spread through the behaviors that they generate in their hosts. Memes that propagate less prolifically may become extinct, while others may survive, spread, and (for better or for worse) mutate. Theorists point out that memes which replicate the most effectively spread best, and some memes may replicate effectively even when they prove detrimental to the welfare of their hosts” (Wikipedia).
    It is not the “best” idea that always thrives, but the one that simply multiply and survive the evolutionary process. So, in designing AVIC, one has to take into account about content and the message in this cultural institution. For example, any idea that is innately appealing to people (or a niche group) and that is encourages evangelization will tend to spread. “Clusters of memes, or memeplexes (also known as meme complexes or as memecomplexes), such as cultural or political doctrines and systems, may also play a part in the acceptance of new memes.

    “Memeplexes comprise groups of memes that replicate together and coadapt Memes that fit within a successful memeplex may gain acceptance by “piggybacking” on the success of the memeplex. ” – Wikipedia. I have been quoting from Wikipedia owing to my laziness, but I hope it conveys the essence of what I meant to say. We need to build traits of survivability in the organization, if it were to survive, something many Systems organizations have not successfully achieved, perhaps partly because the idea of “systems” is not yet well enshrined in the larger psyche, or partly because “systems” folks have not paid sufficient emphasis to these principles.

    Finally, the idea of memetics is just a model. Like all model, it is not the reality, but it is a useful metaphor at the very least.

  • Profile picture of Kent Myers Kent Myers said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    AVIC should offer highly active facilitation that does at least the following: attracts and cultivates new members of the right kind, ejects bad actors, sorts discussion threads to raise some to “featured” status for a while and put others to archive in order to create focus, reduce confusion, and raise sense of activity. Encourages people to learn and use features, keeps people on schedule to group goals such as preparation for meetings, corrects links, renames titles that are unclear, reorganizes materials that are not working and might work better some other way. Introduces nodes (people or information) who might have something in common but may not have connected themselves.

  • Profile picture of Dennis Wilson Dennis Wilson said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    #avicdesign

    AVIC ought to allow community members to post audio video files.

  • Profile picture of said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    AVIC should continue to evolve approaches for understanding and working with systems. Here’s my current state of mind, and yes I know I should have it checked.

    http://insightmaker.com/insight/258

  • Profile picture of Dennis Wilson Dennis Wilson said 1 year, 10 months ago:

    AVIC ought to be able to publish Dr. Ackoff books via the Kindle application. #AVICDesign

  • Profile picture of Dennis Wilson Dennis Wilson said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    Below is an email exchage I had with an interested AVIC designer – Bill fisher. I believe this is the most appropriate place to account for his ideas…

    Bill Fisher to wdennis
    show details Aug 3 (5 days ago)

    Hello Dennis,

    I think this is a great idea. Would you please provide me with information on this initiative.

    Regards,

    Bill,

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    Hi Bill,

    You can find some background information here: http://is.gd/cY7Y1

    Take a look and let me know what you think.

    Dennis

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    Hi Dennis,

    Thanks for the information.

    A few thoughts…

    The purpose for the initiative is what?

    I think Turning Learning Right Side Up should guide this initiative. Ideally every citizen of the world ought to know how to use concepts such as Idealized Design and its universal applications. Each student should demonstrate they not only know the subject, but also know how to use these practical ideas as well or better than their teacher.

    I prefer wisdom rather than inquiry as a focus. Russ would say: wisdom comes from effectiveness ‘doing the right thing’ vs. ‘doing things right.’ And that data, information, knowledge and understanding have to do with efficiency or in some cases doing ‘the wrong thing righter.’

    The world seems to be drowning in information and starved for people who know how to ‘do the right thing.’

    The tools and techniques needed to ‘do the right thing’ are what?

    Regards,

    Bill,

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    The purpose of the initiative, as I see it at this stage, is to design a “Virtual Inquiry Center” as per Dr John Pourdehand’s vision for commemorating Dr Ackoff. The book Turning Learning right side up, to me, is an excellent book by Dr. Ackoff that demonstrates, through the use of systems principles, how the education system would need to change in order for it to “do the right thing” perhaps wrongly at first vs “doing the wrong things right.” Can you expand a bit further on HOW we can use this book as a guide to the initiative via the following forum entrie on “syscoi.com”:

    What do YOU think AVIC’s Mission ought to be?
    What properties do YOU believe AVIC ought to have NOW?
    All you have to do is register with the sight, locate the “AVIC” forum and then contribute to the discussions above. Additinally, you can also contribute the the initiative via LinkedIn. let me invite you to become a member of the “Russel L. Ackoff” linkedin group. I manage the group and would approve you immediatly. There are a few discussions going on there you may want to contribute to.

    Best regards,

    Dennis

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    Hi Dennis,

    I put a request in to join your LinkedIn group.

    David A. Schmaltz on “syscoi.com”:wrote:

    • I think you’ve touched an important element of systems thinking. The distinction that systems thinking is different doesn’t seem to gain anyone much traction. As someone who long touted my own perspectives as different, one client confided to me that he loved the way I think, but he hates that he seems to have to feel wrong or stupid in order to employ me. I had been unaware of this subtle effect my thinking differently had on others.
    It might be more useful to explain systems thinking as something everyone does all the time without necessarily being aware that they are doing it
    I think David has hit the nail on the head. So how do you talk about systems thinking without using the word system, systems thinking, systems dynamics, systemic or holistic? I think fractals may provide the answer. Russ refers to fractals on page 248, Re-Creating The Corporation.

    Fractals are iterated patterns.

    Russ liked to use this quote:

    Without changing our patterns of thought, we will not be able to solve the problems we created with our current patterns of thought. (Albert Einstein)

    I have been working on the idea of pattern management as a fast frugal effective way to move things forward.

    It is also no longer reasonable to spend an extensive amount of time examining a problem from all sides, slowly working towards a consensus and then incrementally implementing the solution. One must be able to identify problems, create solutions and then execute them all within a very short time. This requires organizations to reorganize into flat hierarchies of decision making. (unknown)

    People are very good at pattern recognition they work well with patterns. They use pattern management most of time without thinking about it. This is how I think this idea seems work (well). Patterns produce behaviour. Smart patterns produce smart behaviour. People enjoy working with smart behaviour. Changing behaviour is difficult. A tiny pattern change produces quick change in behaviour.

    Let’s look at this example.
    A sales message generates an active voice / passive voice pattern. Professional copywriter Bob Bly says: a sales message written in the active voice will out sell the same message written in the passive voice by a factor of (10). That’s huge. Pattern management reveals what a pattern is doing or should do and that can be most helpful.

    The pattern is there. Most of us never think about it or how a tiny pattern change can improve effective behaviour. To make pattern identification easier I classify them as static, linear sequential and non-linear dynamic.

    Let’s look at governance as a pattern.
    Governance is often well documented placed in a binder and sits on a shelf. I call this a static example.
    Whereas, continuous pattern management (CPM) that incorporates governance is dynamic and can affect all stakeholders from moment to moment. Governance should align operations in relation to a common (intent) purpose such as ‘create and distribute wealth’ to all stakeholders.

    Where appropriate, you shift from one pattern type to another or to some relevant combination.

    Back to AVIC, Russ would say: ‘the purpose for a corporation is to create and distribute wealth.’ I agree. Why not follow the same pattern of thought: the purpose for AVIC is to create and distribute wisdom? In business if you are not increasing value and profit then what are you going? If you are not creating and distributing wisdom then what are you doing?

    I think patterns can effectively connect people around a common purpose without the need to talk about whole systems thinking.

    Regards,

    Bill,”

  • Profile picture of henry kwok henry kwok said 1 year, 9 months ago:

    Hi
    sorry if i have missed some of the earlier threads. one great question which Ackoff would have asked is – what AVIC wants to be…

    the question here seems to have jumped the gun as what AVIC wants to be seems more fundamental that what it ought to have NOW. the latter is so diffuse that it will not bring out the vision

    warmly
    henry