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    Nicholas B. Torretta

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    link for the second post http://lendodesign.blogspot.com/2011/11/complex-systems-chaos-hierarchy-and.html View
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      Nicholas B. Torretta posted on the forum topic CS0004 Day 3, 2011/11 Systemic Thinking of Sustainable Communities (Aalto University) in the group Group logo of SystemicistsSystemicists: 1 year, 7 months ago

      hello, I published the link on the wrong topic in this community I think (on the day one), so here it is: http://www.lendodesign.blogspot.com

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        Gary Metcalf replied 1 year, 7 months ago

        Thanks for re-posting this, Nicholas. It’s helpful to have everything in one general location.

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      Nicholas B. Torretta posted an update in the group Group logo of SystemicistsSystemicists: 1 year, 7 months ago

      final though about the course; third post:

      http://lendodesign.blogspot.com/2011/11/third-day-final-thoughts.html

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        Gary Metcalf replied 1 year, 7 months ago

        Thank you for your thoughts, Nicholas. It seems that you made good use of the information, and the conversations, from the course. Just one point of caution. Breaking things into parts in order to understand them can mean that you miss the properties of the whole (back to the very simple example of trying to understand water by studying…[Read more]

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      Nicholas B. Torretta posted an update in the group Group logo of SystemicistsSystemicists: 1 year, 7 months ago

      post for the second day:

      http://www.lendodesign.blogspot.com

      hope to be on the right way

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        Gary Metcalf replied 1 year, 7 months ago

        Yes, complexity is about a kind of organizational pattern, and chaos is about a lack of identifiable order. The really fundamental problem for both very high / deep hierarchies, and for very rigid hierarchies, is the dynamic nature of the world. The environment keeps changing and therefore systems within the environment either have to keep…[Read more]

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      Nicholas B. Torretta posted an update: 1 year, 7 months ago

      link for the second post

      http://lendodesign.blogspot.com/2011/11/complex-systems-chaos-hierarchy-and.html

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        David Ing replied 1 year, 7 months ago

        @nicholasbtorretta In your blog post on complex systems, chaos, hierarchy and panarchy, you’ve taken a large bit of systems content to digest. You’ve made a good tie between the work of Elinor Ostrom and E. F. Schumacher as complementary. The reading of Holling et. al. surfaces the dilemmas of maintaining a (failing) system that we know, and…[Read more]

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      Nicholas B. Torretta posted on the forum topic CS0004 Day 1, 2011/11 Systemic Thinking of Sustainable Communities (Aalto University) in the group Group logo of SystemicistsSystemicists: 1 year, 7 months ago

      Hello, here is the address for my blog (an old one) which I’m recycling in this course because I think it is useful to the topics that I used to write about there.

      my first post is already there.

      http://www.lendodesign.blogspot.com

      Thanks

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        David Ing replied 1 year, 7 months ago

        @nicholasbtorretta On your blog post on Systems Thinking in Design< I can see that you're already trying to place systems thinking (which is new to you) to design (which is not new to you).

        It seems to me, though, that design in which you think about design may be centered on man-made things such as products (or maybe outcomes, if we extend to…[Read more]

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        Gary Metcalf replied 1 year, 7 months ago

        You’ve obviously gotten some of the first concepts, Nicholas: parts and wholes, relationships and questions of “fit,” etc. How those concepts affect the practice and processes of design are still pretty big questions.

        Your point that: “a ‘system’ is not something pre-defined, but, on the other way, it is defined by the person who is…[Read more]

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